I've never heard Luke specifically trained for the sole purpose of defeating Darth Vader. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Vader was weaker after his dip in lava dude. Anakin Skywalker (Ep 3) vs Luke Skywalker (Ep 6) - Arm Wrestle edition Star Wars Topic Archived; You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. so how can you determine who is better without comparing their feats and capabilities. It's father versus son, where two of the most talented, gifted, and important Jedi enter the arena! Immature et facilement excitable, ses camarades d'Anchorhead passaient leur temps à le pousser à bout. He is Force-sensitive and skilled with a lightsaber. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. How does any of that make him more skilled than Luke? Unless we give him paranoid schizophrenia mode like on Mustafar, If this is NuCanon Star Wars EU, Anakin stomps Luke. Obi-Wan stomped Anakin's $%#, Luke would absolutely obliterate him, especially if this is the EU versions of them. it allowed him to adapt to different styles of lightsaber dueling and of force techniques. The Movies state twice that Vader held back by Luke himself on Vaders conflicted emotions. @dccomicsrule2011@fetts@americanspeeddemon. he was trained by the best, when they were at their best, and even fought and took on the best(dooku/obiwan/ various other force sensitives and jedi's). Round 2: Vader....The only reason luke "won" this battle was because vader was conflicted about killing his son so he didn't try that hard towards the end. Très jeune, il devint pilote de modules de course, des véhicules extrêmement rapides et dangereux. anakin was trained by obi wan(the same guy who trained luke) but for almost a decade longer then luke did. Pendant la Guerre des Clones, le Grand Maître Yoda entreprit une mission périlleuse afin de percer les secrets de l'immortalité et de la réincarnation de l'esprit. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Fighting Luke obviously hinders this connection as he is his son. How does that make Anakin more skilled than Luke? Luke as per ROTJ sucks ass, has shitty feats, and out dueled no one worth their salt at their best. Force crushes weapons, objects, and throws around foes. Luke hardly beat Vader who was not even trying a bit and Vader is much slower and weaker from Anakin . and train all his life just to duel Vader and Vader alone really. he has learned how to adapt to each one of them and how to counter each of their styles. What is it about Dooku or Asajj Ventress that victory over them is marks an auto-win over Luke? So the context here again is this. In that case, they're equally skilled and strong, but Anakin is noticeably faster and considerably more powerful, so he would get the edge. Lui et sa mère, Shmi Skywalker, firent l'objet d'un pari entre Watto et Gardulla Besadii, qui les perdit. Which translates into him beating Luke how exactly? EVERYTHING points to him being more skilled then luke, and his FEATS show that, he has shown feats of both force use and of dueling skills that Luke has only been able to match as a GM. At least until Luke went all out (force rage) on a holding back Vader and won. Anakin Skywalker est un jeune chevalier Jedi, qui deviendra le Sith Dark Vador (Darth Vader en anglais). Now, the whole Anakin/Vader difference. Pendant l'une d'elles, la Prêtresse de la Force Sérénitélui annonça qu'il y aurait un autre Skywalker, prédisant ainsi la naissance de Luke et de sa sœur jumelle Leia. But based on feats, Anakin.Round 2: Luke, no contest. I've never claimed Luke would even win this, nor have I made a single argument for Luke, and outright refuted that me simply saying "Luke beat Vader so he beats Anakin" isn't any proof in itself, yet you twisted it into me using that as an argument, which I never did. La Famille Skywalker est une lignée d'humains sensible à la Force dont le premier membre connu est Shmi Skywalker. Throws back a easy 30 ton large stone column, and then blows Ventress through a stone wall. and even fought and took on the best(dooku/obiwan/ various other force sensitives and jedi's). at the height of there power luke wins... became for more powerful than his father. Here Anakin overpowers the two strongest force beings on a neutral Force Nexus. Of course this context is re affirm in the fact anakin must really tap into his emotions too to pull of greater force feats. Obi Wan "Anakin, the planet is the Force. @jedixman@the_imperator@juiceboks@deathstroke19@The_Deathstroker@jacthripper. You just seem incapable of understanding my point (again). @azronger: I was just saying what each continuity led me to think, and it's hypocritical to try to protest against someone else's argument for someone emerging victorious and say that you WEREN'T trying to support the opposition just because you "never even claimed Luke would win this." Anakin wins very easily. anakin would take it hands down. If we take other sources into account, then we have Luke being equal to Darth Vader at this point, who apparently is much stronger than his former self. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. It makes perfect sense. @geistalt: @chair-sama: Both of your posts are full of strawmans. its no doubt to anybody here that anakin obviously got the better side of the jedi training. it allows him to master his own technique and continuously increase his own skill level against other skilled opponents. I'm hoping someone competent could make an actual case for Anakin. 7:04. That being the case, they should also specify what Luke they want. he also trained with many other jedi of the order, and even took lessons from grand master yoda himself(just like luke) on top of this, he learned how to adapt his style over the years to deal with a multitude of enemies(droids, humans, force sensitives, even sith Lords) and literally has a Decade of experience in the clone wars on top of his training by some of the best jedi. I never ignored anything. Once again, if we go strictly by canon. And the only thing Luke struggled with was his inner darkness. Your only arguments for Anakin have been "better feats," and "greater experience." Cade was able to revive the dead by using the so-called Dark transfer. If Luke was just some random vader would have destroyed him and vader is way weaker than anakin was, Luke could take on vader and anakin if it's eu. how does fighting other lightsaber duelists make him more skilled? his years of experience and far better light saber strikes will be unbareable for luke. How to draw Anakin Skywalker. Luke. Les années passèrent et la plupart des amis de Luke, plus ambitieux, comme Biggs Darklighter et Janek Sunber « Tank », quittèrent respectivement Tatooine pour l'Académie Navale de Prefsbelt IV et l'Académie Impériale de Carida. in the long run, Luke far eclipses his father in skill and power and becomes a better jedi then anakin ever would have, but with these 2 current versions? This battle was inspired by the video posted by Antoine Bandele which you can watch here: If we are going by canon/movie versions only, Anakin absolutely wrecks Luke. you claim they are not worthy. Luke has poor dueling skills through ANH-ESB. Anakin has much more combat experience and MUCH better training. Like. Anakin moving over 100+ tons of Separatist Dreadnought ship into a path of missiles. Ferris Nakia. Vader and Luke were equal. Luke Skywalker is a character from the Star Wars universe, and the main protagonist of the original trilogy who first appears in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope.Luke is the twin brother of Princess Leia Organa, both of whom are the children of Padmé Amidala and Anakin Skywalker, the latter a former Jedi who turned to the dark side of the force to became the Sith lord known as Darth Vader. Il devient chevalier Jedi après avoir été formé par Obi-Wan Kenobi et Yoda. But what I'm say is that there are discussions of making Old Man Rex into being present on the Battle of Endor as well as actually being on-screen in ROTJ by officially labeling him as the same Rebel Trooper seen in the picture and in the scene where Han Solo tricks a Scout Trooper into chasing him into his rebel squad. (Harry is "The Chosen One", who was pre-destined to be the one that kills Voldemort, while Luke is the son of Anakin Skywalker, "The Chosen One", who was prophesied to bring balance to the Force.) Let’s say that by time travel Luke travels back and faces his father when they are the same age and he is still a Jedi. @sirfizzwhizz: Strawman. he had well over a decade of training/practice/ dueling and even fought in a war on a scale that dwarfs anything the rebellion could produce. So Anakin was stronger than Vader. Here is a respect thread to find duels and feats. "but how does that mean hes better. A lot. (Hopefully you guys also know a bit about Anakin Skywalker). @sirfizzwhizz: Simply dumping feats into one place and calling that evidence doesn't prove shit. it wasnt until Post-ROTJ where he spent time meditating and studing the old jedi teachings where he learned a lot from his former masters. Didn't they already make that happen during the Clone Wars cartoon? Who cares if Luke held back? La famille Skywalker est au cœur de la saga cinématographique Star Wars. Unlike clone wars Anakin, this Anakin will tap into his emotions faster and quicker with little to no hesitation. it wasnt until Post-ROTJ where he spent time meditating and studing the old jedi teachings where he learned a lot from his former masters. His swordsman ship is slow and not incredibly effective, so he needed more skill with the force to survive. But between the two of us I think I got the cooler stick (swing it!)! Battle. LEGO Star Wars TFA All Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker (Episode IV) Abilities & How to Unlock. Use it." its no doubt to anybody here that anakin obviously got the better side of the jedi training. Umm..please don't make starwars threads. Il a été élevé sur Tatooine par son oncle Owen et sa tante Beru. and round two Anakin wins easily!!! They both have lightsabers and the force. He is taken in by his uncle and aunt, Owen and Beru Lars, after the death of Padmé and Anakin's fall to the dark side. Ce dernier, dont la sortie est prévu fin 2019 et dont le titre est L'Ascension de Skywalker, marque la fin de la saga. After that incident of Mustafar , Vader lost the most amount of his force and physical abilities. But how does that mean he will win" <--- that is essentially your whole counter argument. Do you think all out raging Vader would lose to Luke? http://comicvine.gamespot.com/star-wars-universe/4015-57038/forums/anakin-skywalker-respect-thread-updated-1639459/. his only time learning how to properly duel was his one fight against vader where he got his hand cut off. Sign Up for free (or Log In if you already have an account) to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. the only context was Obi Wan telling Anakin to tap into the same Force Nexus the force beings were manipulating since their arrival, and the context of the Father forcing Anakin to go all out by putting his friends in danger. Luke Skywalker vs Anakin Skywalker. Born to a slave on Tatooine through Darth Plagueis' manipulation of the Force, Anakin was gifted with unprecedented potential in the Force. Pretty clear Obi Wan is mentioning to Anakin to tap into the same Force Nexus as the children have. Been done, and I think the general consensus is that Anakin would win. We have provided our reasoning. The issue is these characters held back and never went all out. Having a establish fighting history is how we determine a good boxer/MMA fighter from bad ones mate. Il exprime à plusieurs reprises le désir de libérer des esclaves. So I ask again, why are you trolling? Luke has poor dueling skills through ANH-ESB, and train all his life just to duel Vader and Vader alone really. And how does that make Anakin more skilled than Luke? Alors qu'elle était enfant, elle fut réduit en esclavage après qu'elle fut capturée avec ses parents par des pirates. Anakin has fought and beaten many Lightsaber duelist and masters. Un jour, alors qu'il a neuf ans, trois étrangers entrèrent dans le magasin dans lequel il travaillait : Qui-Gon Jinn, Jar Jar Binks et Padmé Amidala, qui se masquait alors sous le n… Anakin and Luke Skywalker have a certain amount in common, particularly their beginnings, but they ultimately became totally different people as they followed divergent paths in life. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. They could have A New Hope Luke and then Anakin or Vader Stomps. I don't understand the point of this sentence. The book states he would kill Luke if he had to, he was not out to kill Luke at all, and holding back. It's much more likely to end up as a melee fight, where Luke takes a clear edge. Round 1: Honestly, I might say Luke simply because Lucas said that Luke became what Anakin could have been (I think he said that, anyway). Vader vs Movie Luke, we know that Luke wins in the end, but I think that Vader had the potential to win if he really opened up with the force. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. You have utterly failed to elaborate on the first and now that your "greater experience" argument has been debunked, you have run out of arguments and try to shift the burden of proof to me, despite me never even saying Luke would win. Anakin Skywalker vs Luke Skywalker is a bonus episode of ZackAttackX's One Minute Melees and his ninth collab with ZombieSlayer23. Mobil Oyun Tv. Round 2- If EU Luke in his prime he destroys Anakin, but if its EU Luke up until the end of ROTJ, then that makes it a bit tougher for me to decide. I dont, and there is ZERO evidence other than one out of date source from a comic that says otherwise. Mais quand Luke demandait à son oncle de pouvoir les rejoindre, la réponse était toujours la même … In his prime, Anakin was probably the best saber duelist after Mace Windu, Yoda, and Sidious. @azronger: He had 14 years' worth of training, while Luke only had 4. I ask for the last time: How is Anakin more skilled than Luke and how does that translate into Anakin beating him? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Anakin may be the Chosen One, but can he survive a match against his successor! The son of famous Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, he was left on Tatooine with his aunt and uncle after the fall of the Jedi Order. I love it, by the way, that people are saying that canon Anakin would beat Luke, but Legends Anakin wouldn't. EU? So other than fighting a holding back Vader, what has ROTJ Luke done in his history to say he is a good duelist? The duel will be Skywalker attempting to embarrass and outclass Rey. Then, the prequels told the story of how wayward Jedi Padawan Anakin Skywalker was corrupted by the Sith and became Darth Vader. Très jeune, il était p… @naturallygifted Anakin would wreck with ease. Anakin has fought and beaten many Lightsaber duelist and masters. @silver2467: I thought Rouge One Darth Vader has very quick burst speed until he was injured once again. Anakin twice shown to be able to blow through Dooku's Force defenses. Il était également très bricoleur et servait de mécanicien à Watto, son maître Toydarien. Anakin rarely applies himself with the Force, but when he does he proven to be the more powerful than the children. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. L'histoire de la famille s'étend sur trois trilogies cinématographiques, de l'épisode I à l'épisode IX. Pendant un temps, Shmi et Anakin furent la propriété de la seigneur du crime Gardulla l… Most of lukes training was for the sole purpose of taking on Vader. not focusing on one single style to fight against. You are killing your fanbase if you do this. This has been done multiple times, once by me and my thread got locked. although that suit made him PHYSICALLY strong, but weak in overall. everything mentioned makes him more skilled then luke. He defeated Dooku, who WAS the finest pupil Yoda ever had. Oh, and Vader's skills that were derived from his 23/36 years' worth of training don't make him more impressive than he was as Anakin, since he lost half of his former potential; the only thing Anakin and Luke share for CERTAIN is their potential, and, seeing how Vader got himself crippled, Luke's victory over him doesn't make him any better; the only other thing we have to compare Luke and Anakin's skills with is the number of years they spent training (and Anakin had 13 years' worth of training, while Luke only had 4). @azronger: In Canon materials, Anakin improved little (if at all) as Vader, as demonstrated by his performance in Rebels; the point is that there's only adequate reason to believe he'd win in the Canon universe, since it has been shown that he improved heavily overall in Legends (in other words, while his Legends incarnation doesn't stand a chance, his Canon one might). 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